Episode 43

full
Published on:

15th Jan 2026

43. Line 3: The Martyr

In this episode Kelsey dives into the 3rd line principle in Human Design, which is often called the Martyr or Experimenter. Line 3 is here to learn through direct experience, trial and error, and constant mutation. This is the line of resilience, adaptation, and embodied wisdom that can only be earned by living, bumping into things, and discovering what actually works. This episode is an invitation to reframe “failure” as data, to soften self-judgment, and to recognize the profound intelligence of a life lived through honest experimentation.

What's Discussed in this Episode:

  1. The evolutionary role of Line 3 in discovering what actually works
  2. Why Line 3 is designed to make and break bonds with people, paths, identities, and systems
  3. The emotional impact of repeated “failures” and why they’re not actually failure
  4. How Line 3 wisdom becomes deeply embodied and practical
  5. The shadow expressions of Line 3: shame, cynicism, or fear of trying again

If you would like full access to the course, including the videos and slides, make sure to join the Patreon, where you will find the full LYD course and exclusive Human Design and Astrology content.

Follow Kelsey on Instagram

Transcript
Speaker A:

When a third line knows something, they really know it, and they found out, sometimes the hard way, so that we don't all have to find it out ourselves. That's what the third line character offers, evolutionarily speaking.

For example, it was probably the third lines who discovered which plants were safe to eat and which weren't.

Speaker A:

Welcome to the Living Your Design Podcast. I'm your experimentor, Kelsey Rose Tortorice.

This podcast is an audio only release of the full length in depth Human Design Foundations course I've been teaching over the last several years.

It is a no bullshit, comprehensive, embodied introduction to the human design system that will challenge your ego mind and support you in your process of reuniting with the unique wisdom of your body.

In episode one, I speak a bit about the process that led me to releasing this course for free in podcast form, and I offer a few notes that might be useful to contextualize and clarify what you'll hear in this episode and beyond.

I recommend giving that short intro episode a listen if you haven't yet the LYD podcast is part of a larger living body of work, a growing archive of my teachings about consciousness through the languages of astrology and human design, hosted in an online community space where I stay in orbit with my students, mentees, alumni, peers and collaborators.

For more information about how to connect with me and tune in to my archives and ongoing live teachings, including how to access the original LYD course, complete with videos and slides. Stay tuned to the podcast or check out patreon.com/KelseyRoseTort.

Thank you for tuning into my transmission of Living Your Design. It's a deeply personal and somewhat vulnerable share that. I feel honored, humbled and excited to release into the world. I hope that it helps you remember and come home to yourself.

Speaker A:

Line 3, the Martyr. So here we are still in the lower trigram, the personal trigram, but here we are at the completion of the personal trigram. The word for where we are in the process here is adaptation.

And I think of it like we're adapting here because there's an awareness that after this we're moving up into the upper trigram where we will be in the process of exchanging with the external world. So we really want to solidify and complete this process of taking in and learning via the lower trigram or the personal trigram in the house.

This is the staircase up to the second floor, so there's an orientation towards movement climbing, but there's an orientation with the third line as well towards the material world.

Actually engaging with the material world and so just sort of like the laboriousness of like climbing up the stairs, that, you know, maybe it's not that laborious of a thing, but compared to just sort of sitting and naturally playing the guitar or investigating the foundation, there is like movement. There's more happening here, more of like a density to what's happening here in the third part of the process.

And this is also now in the Ajna binary. So we're out of the splenic binary. This is the first line or principle that we're looking at that is outside of the splenic binary.

So we're no longer oriented towards safety and security when we get to the third line, protection, which was a concept for both one and two. Now we're in the Ajna binary, which is about movement and transformation and instability and mutation.

Transformation and mutation require a certain amount of instability in order for the mutation to take place. It is instable when things are mutating.

And this is the vibe as we move into the next two lines, three and four, there is an inherent lack of stability because there is this exchange happening, a preparation for exchange, adaptation and the exchange when we get to the fourth line. So it's a pretty, it feels in ways like a pretty drastic difference from 1 and 2, which are very protection and security based.

The third line is not actually so concerned with remaining safe. The third line is concerned with adaptation, with mutation. And there's an inherent instability to it.

I want to note before we go through all this third line material that if you have a six line in your profile, take note because when we get to the six line, we'll be talking about the three life phases, the third line phase, the on the roof phase, and the coming down from the roof phase. And when you're a sixth line, the first 30 years or so of your life pre Saturn return, you're in what we call the third line phase.

And so aspects of what we talk about with the third line are going to be very relevant for you in a very different way than third lines will orient to it, which we'll discuss when we get to the sixth. But just noting that there's going to be some resonance here in a way that is different but particular to your process as a sixth line.

So again, lower trigram, so it's personal. We're taking in information and learning. You got the info. One, you integrated two, you and three.

Now it's time to get your hands dirty and test it out. I call this the fuck around and find out Lyme, because you got your Info. You did your research, you practiced it, and you became natural at it.

And now by the time we get to the three and what third lines embody, it's like, all right, let's go apply it. Let's actually go see what works. It's all about discovery through trial and error. This is the trial and error line, experimentation and exploration.

Third lines are trying to figure out what really works. This is the last phase of the learning process, and we're interested in concrete knowing. It's very material in nature. These people are resilient.

There's a natural resilience to the third line.

They're driven to know what does and doesn't work through personal experience and thus tend to be comfortable with bumps and bruises and perceived mistakes and failures. The extent to which this is true is going to depend on a lot of different things, right? Think about the 13 profile.

The body wants to make those, wants to bump into things and, and has this resilience. But the personality is constantly seeking security, so there's tension there. Think about the, like an undefined spleen in a third line, right?

There's.

There might be fear and anxiety about security, and yet the third line, wherever it is in the profile, is bringing it towards these perceived sort of mistakes and failures in order to learn something. Learning the hard way is what the third line is all about.

When a third line knows something, they really know it and they found out sometimes the hard way so that we don't all have to find it out ourselves. That's what the third line character offers for the rest of us. I know.

You know, I mentioned during the second line lecture that as a second line, there is a real kind of vulnerability to what I know, because I can't tell you exactly why I know it, I just know it, right? Or what I'm good at. It's just natural.

But when I'm with the third lines in my life, I. I really do often look to them to, to kind of confirm if I feel like I know something, I might throw it at a. A 1 or a 3 or especially a 13 to get a little bit more of a foundational understanding. Hey, did your research.

As a first line, does this confirm this thing I know? Or as a third line, hey, does this really work? Like, have you lived experience, shown that this thing works? Right.

And so in order to really know something, the way that a third line or the third line, part of a process desires to know it, it requires getting the hands dirty, it requires testing it out, it requires bumping into it right, Instability for the sake of mutation. And the third line person is oriented to, I'll be the one to do it. Evolutionarily speaking.

For example, it was probably the third lines who discovered which plants were safe to eat and which weren't. A phrase that often goes with the third line of making and breaking bonds.

And oftentimes we're referring to this in regards to relationships specifically. And I'll come back to that in a moment. But this idea transcends relationality. Remember, the third line is a. Is a personal line.

It's not so oriented to relationship for the sake of relationship. The way that the third line orients to everything is for the sake of learning.

And so I think about this like a third line will make a bond with anything. A third line will make a bond with the idea of, I'll try that plant to see if it's safe, right? Or I'll fuck around with this concept, this belief.

I'll try it, I'll try it out. And then coming back to relationship, like, I'll try out this connection. I'll see if it works. So that's the making bonds.

But once the third line knows what it needs to know, which we can really boil down to like, does this work when the answer is no, the third line's going to naturally break the bond. Anarchy is a word that shows up when studying the third line.

At times, the third line sort of behaves as the anarchist, and that's this breaking bond piece. Like once the third line knows what doesn't work, it's willing to kind of blow it up, break the bond and go try something else. Now.

So there is this real, like an investment in the making bond part where the third line's like, let's try it to see if it works. And then a breaking bond. And this does show up in relationship as well.

So oftentimes third lines have a really easy time kind of just pulling away, breaking a bond, which doesn't necessarily have to mean forever. Third lines in relationship will often be regularly making and breaking bonds with others with the same other.

Even like the relationship itself has to sort of get reinvented in a new way, which is is how the third line operates in general. Here's a raw quote about the third line. It's here to discover what doesn't work. So often that looks like a mistake.

Everything about being a third line being is understanding that life is a trial and error process. You're here to find out what really works. And you're here to let everybody know what doesn't work because that's your gift.

So again, the martyr, the third color associations with this are hot and cold. Determination, also known as thirst determination. Kitchens environment so thinking about like alchemy, kitchens are places where alchemy takes place.

Adaptation of the three Desire motivation. I think of desire motivation, the mind being motivated to conceptualize according to what is what it wants. In this moment.

I think about that as the making of a bond with desire motivation.

There's like a locking into a particular desire, making a bond with something and power view seeing what works and what doesn't, who has the power and who doesn't. The martyrs test things out. They have to see for themselves, right? It's not enough to research that this could get you electrocuted.

The third line has to go and try it for themselves and experience it as their own being. It's important, I think, for third lines to remember that you want to know, right? So it can be easy.

When studying human design and finding out your third line, I think it can be easy to kind of like feel a little victimy about the fact that you have to learn things the hard way. But that's the only thing, like being in this kind of state of process of like really being in what doesn't work is the only way to know things.

The way that a third line is designed to seek knowing. And similarly with like the way that other people talk about the third line in human design is it can be easy to kind of, you know, make fun.

But they're the martyr. Like they're, that's what they offer all of us is a knowledge that without that third line process would not be attainable.

Third line in context so for the 35 and the 3 6, this anarchy energy, this martyr energy, this trial and error process through discovery, the fuck around and find out vibe of the third line is a part of the conscious personality. This person thinks of themselves as having these third line characteristics. They know what they know from their process, from their personal process.

Versus for the 13 and the 6 3, it's the body, the design, the unconscious that is the martyr. So these third line characteristics are qualities of the form unconscious or less conscious to the personality.

And since we've now talked about both the 1 and the 3, we can look a little more closely at the profile of the investigator martyr specifically. So in the one three profile investigator martyr the personality desires and orients to security, while the body requires and ensures trial and error.

The 1 3, their mind, their conscious personality is always driven towards what's not Safe and I need to learn more in order to prevent not knowing or not being safe.

Splenic binary but regardless of what the mind thinks it wants and needs, the body is constantly bumping into things and constantly making bonds with potentially dangerous things for the sake of really learning something concretely.

So the first line personality has to surrender to the process of the third line body, which to the first line personality might feel extremely terrifying.

But what one thing I've noticed a lot for one threes is that there's room for the first line personality to relax into all that the third line body already knows.

For one threes, your lived experience has and will continue to offer you the foundation that your mind craves and even more than the foundation that the mind craves. So this surrender has to happen.

The first line personality has to realize that even though my mind's always going to be telling me I need to learn more, learn more, learn more to to get a better foundation, more solid foundation. And it's always going to feel a little insecure in what it knows.

The third line body is constantly going to drag you into situations that the first line mind might not actually think are safe or think that you have the foundation enough to embrace. But the third line body, you've had this third line body your whole life.

Your body has been accumulating of extremely concrete understanding of what is true and what is not, what works and what does not. So you have an entire lived experience of knowledge of the completion of this learning process.

And your first line personality both has to and also can kind of trust and rely on that. You know more, you know much more than your first line personality than your mind is sometimes willing to acknowledge.

And also just noting about the 1 3, this is the only profile made up of two lower trigram lines. All 11 of the other profile combos have at least one upper trigram line. Most 10 out of the 12 profiles have an upper and a lower.

The 46 is the only one fully transpersonal and the 13 is the only one fully personal. So this is the most self oriented and the most foundational in nature of the profile lines. Very much about the lower trigram.

And again the bookends of the lower trigram, learning it to get a solid foundation and completing that learning process by throwing myself in there and really truly seeing what works and what doesn't.

This is the 13 specifically and we'll take a little bit of a look at the third line as it shows up in the context of the three five, the three six and the six three as we come to the five and the six.

Speaker A:

Thanks for listening to the Living Your Design podcast. Stay tuned for the rest of the curriculum. New batches of episodes are released every Tuesday.

For immediate complete access to the full course and to explore other perks like learning and community, extracurricular astrology and human design workshops and meeting with me face to face, go to patreon.com/KelseyRoseTort. You can also listen to me on my other podcasts, the Maya Games and Conversations with the Zodiac, and find me on Instagram @kelseyrosetort.

Listen for free

Show artwork for Living Your Design

About the Podcast

Living Your Design
Your Comprehensive Introduction to the Human Design System
The LYD podcast is a free, audio-only release of the standard foundational Human Design curriculum as taught by IHDS Certified LYD Guide, Kelsey Rose Tortorice.


This transmission of Human Design fundamentals clarifies the basics, including core principles and mechanics, centers, aura type, strategy, authority, and profile. Kelsey demystifies these concepts so that listeners can understand how every piece is rooted in a clear, cosmic, mechanical system, as well as how they’re all synthesized together for practical, differentiated, embodied application.


Kelsey (5/2 emotional manifestor) is a lover of nuance, a challenger of the binary, an agent for upheaval, and a natural at finding ways to make the complex systems of Astrology & Human Design intuitive, organic, and accessible. People from all points on the novice to seasoned spectrum are drawn to Kelsey's teachings and transmissions on these languages of cosmos and consciousness - less because of what they already know or don’t know and more because they feel a resonance with Kelsey's voice and the potential for impact that their spirit craves.


The LYD podcast is a great place to begin your Human Design studies. It's also a fitting place to fill in the holes from self-study, to challenge the superficial understandings that are especially susceptible to mental distortion, or to revisit these foundations with the intent to integrate them in a more rooted, intuitive, personal, and radically honest way.

About your host

Profile picture for Kelsey Tortorice

Kelsey Tortorice

Kelsey is a post-capitalist astrologer, teacher, human design experiMentor, and community initiator. Ruled by a 7th house Jupiter in Gemini, she is a student-teacher of the Maia; seeking to understand and universalize the mechanics of reality within the context of individuality, relationship, cosmos, and consciousness as a whole.

Her frequency facilitates upheaval; disrupting homogenized programming and re-orienting people to their differentiated truth and separateness as a means to arriving to connection & inherent wholeness. With reverence for differentiation and a knack for universalization, Kelsey embraces the simultaneous uniqueness and sameness of each human experience. Their work incorporates various modalities, frameworks, and spiritual teachings in honoring and navigating this apparent contradiction.

Accompanying others on their journeys towards remembering what they Know, Kelsey invites deeper levels of autonomy, authenticity, faith, freedom, and surrender.